Part II. Subscribing to Newsgroups

01. Ques: What does "subscribing" mean?
02. Ques: How do I find a NG on "x" subject?
03. Ques: What is "Expert Add" and how do I use it?
04. Ques: How do I get a new NG through AOL?
05. Ques: How do I get a list of all NGs?
06. Ques: Why can't I get "x" NG on AOL?
07. Ques: How do I unsubscribe a Newsgroup?
08. Ques: How do I read my Newsgroups off-line?
09. Ques: All the posts in the newsgroup look as though they are
               encoded / junk / gobbledegook - What's wrong?
10. Ques: What are the different sets of Preferences?
               1. Main newsgroups
               2. Individual newsgroups
               3. Members menu

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01. Ques: What does "subscribing" mean?

MarkAllott answers:

When you subscribe to a newsgroup, it means that the requested
newsgroup has been added to your personal list for reading. This
is similar to having a subscription to your favourite magazine,
but in the case of newsgroups, it doesn't cost a penny to
subscribe. :)

To subscribe to a newsgroup you need to follow these steps :

1) Log on to AOL.
2) Go to the Newsgroups main screen. (Keyword:
USENET)
3) Press the "add newsgroups" button.
4) Find the newsgroup you want to add.
5) Select the newsgroup and press the "Add" button.

At this point, you should get a message back from AOL saying
something like "You are now subscribed to [newsgroup name]".

Once this has occurred, you will now be able to read the newsgroup
from "Read my Newsgroups" button on the main Newsgroups screen.


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02. Ques: How do I find a NG on "X" subject?

MzLindyOne answers :

Since AOL's newsgroup search feature only searches the official
names of the groups, it's not very useful in this area, unless
you are very experienced in how newsgroups are generally named.
A better solution is to go to Google Groups USENET Database at:
http://groups.google.com/
and search specific words. When the results of the search come
back, note which newsgroups they appear in most often, then
"Expert Add" in the AOL Newsgroups area. For instance, if you
were looking for a newsgroup where actress Sandra Bullock is
discussed, you would type in "Sandra Bullock" (without the quotes)
in the DejaNews search window, at which point the results will
show (discounting any current rash of spam ads) that her fans
have their own newsgroup (alt.fan.sandra-bullock), and she is
discussed occasionally in alt.showbiz.gossip, and a few other
groups. If you are looking for information on cooking, you would
type in "cooking" or perhaps a particular kind of cooking or food
ie "Italian cooking" or "Italian food", for instance.

Frank W Bell adds :

Google purchased Dejanews and, if you browse to
http://www.dejanews.com , your browser will be redirected to
http://groups.google.com . The functions that MzLindyOne
described can now be done there or by going to
http://www.google.com and selecting the "Groups" tab at the top
of the search window.

CrystalSingerDG adds this :

Google has just announced that, after over a year of work, it
has made 20 years of USENET posts available for searching at:

http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html

for more details.


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03. Ques: What is "Expert Add" and how do I use it?

MarkAllott answers :

What is it?

"Expert Add" is an alternative method of adding a newsgroup to
your "subscribed to" list. This method is useful when you know the
exact name of the newsgroup, or you can't find the newsgroup you
want in the database displayed by "Add Newsgroups".

How do I use it?

1) Sign on to AOL
2) Go to the Newsgroups main screen (Keyword:
USENET)
3) From the main screen, press the "Expert Add" icon.
4) On the Expert Add screen, type in the name of the newsgroup
that you wish to add to your subscribed list.
Example : alt.quotations
5) Press the Add button. At this point, you should get a message
informing you that the group has been added to your list. If
this does not happen, then there could be two reasons for
this.
i) You misspelled the newsgroup name. Check the spelling and
try again.
ii) The newsgroup has not yet been picked up by AOL's servers.
Try again in another couple of days. If it fails again,
send an email to NewsMaster requesting the group to be
added.


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04. Ques: How do I get a new Newsgroup through AOL?

MarkAllott answers :

If a new newsgroup has been created, it may take some time before
AOL starts to pick it up properly. The reason it takes time to
pick up the new groups is because the news-servers have to be
configured so that they have space allocated to them.

To get AOL to (possibly) pick up this new group quicker, you'll
need to send an e-mail to
NewsMaster@aol.com, Subject line should
to be "Add New newsgroup request" and list the full Usenet name
for the newsgroup. Then all you have to do is wait until the
request is processed ;-)

NewsMaster adds:

A copy of the newgroup message will help us to process the request
to add the newsgroup a lot quicker for you.


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05. Ques: How do I get a list of all NGs?

ShatTCat answers from his archives :

There are two lists of newsgroups that are easily available to the
public. These are "List of Active Newsgroups (Parts 1 and 2)" and
"Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies (Parts 1 thru 5)". They are both
posted monthly to the news.answers newsgroup, but if you don't want
to wade through all the info in that group, you can request a copy
from the mail server at MIT.

To request these lists from mail server at MIT, send e-mail:

TO:
mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
with only the following seven lines of info in body of e-mail:

send usenet/news.answers/active-newsgroups/part1

send usenet/news.answers/active-newsgroups/part2

send usenet/news.answers/alt-hierarchies/part1

send usenet/news.answers/alt-hierarchies/part2

send usenet/news.answers/alt-hierarchies/part3

send usenet/news.answers/alt-hierarchies/part4

send usenet/news.answers/alt-hierarchies/part5

WARNING: These lists are very very large. Be prepared for a
lengthy download when they arrive, or you pull them from the NG.
They may also be broken into parts of parts, so that you end up
with more than 7 files. That's only because of the limitations of
Internet e-mail. ALSO, if you want to, you can separate the above
send commands and send them in any order or combination that you
wish.

MzLindyOne adds :

I would like to point out that I didn't find them posted to those
newsgroups and according to what I got from the mail-serv, they
hadn't been posted since Dec. 2, 1996. They are available through
Google. Also, I got the list from the mail-serv, and I got 10
e-mails, with 6 attachments total -- 10 parts to put together in
some intelligible form and I don't think I made it I recommend
you send for these one at a time, then put them together before
sending for the next section.


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06. Ques: Why can't I get "X" Newsgroup on AOL?

MarkAllott answers :

Well, it would all depend upon what the particular newsgroup is
about. AOL has decided that certain newsgroups will *not* be
carried on their servers. These newsgroups include the "warez"
types (normally associated with softare piracy) and the newsgroups
that deal in paedophilia.

Another reason for not being able to access certain newsgroups is
because of the way they were created. For a newsgroup to be
carried throughout Usenet, certain creation messages need to be
sent out to instruct other news-servers to carry that newsgroup.
If that message was sent incorrectly or was not configured
properly, then the newsgroup might not get created successfully.
The other possibility is that the newsgroup itself has been set up
for local access only - ie some of the aol.* newsgroups have local
access only and don't appear outside of AOL.


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07. Ques: How do I unsubscribe a Newsgroup?

Aurictouch [with updates from Animated GIF Man] answers :

To unsubcribe from a newsgroup (in AOL 2.5, 3.0 or AOL 3.0 95):

1) You must go online, and to the Welcome screen. There will be
a button at the bottom of the welcome screen labeled
"Internet".
2) Tap it with the mouse. This will open the "Welcome to the
Internet" screen. On that screen is a series of buttons down
the left side.
3) Tap the one labeled "Newsgroups". There you will see a series
of buttons laid out in a star.

[Animated GIF Man notes:
AOL 4.0 or above, simply go to Keyword:
USENET]

3a) If you have been reading your target NG offline, you should
tap the "Read Offline" button and remove the target from the
"off line" list. I once had a NG refuse to unsubscribe until
I took it off offline reading. Close this screen.
4) Tap the one labeled "Read My Newsgroups."
5) On the next screen that comes up, highlight the target
newsgroup, and then go to the bottom of the page. One of the
buttons down there will be labeled "Remove". Tap that button,
and you *should* be unsubscribed from the NG you don't want.

It's not as hard to do as it reads, trust me. Midas


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08. Ques: How do I read my Newsgroups off-line?

Aurictouch answers :

To read a newsgroup offline:

1) Sign on to AOL.
2) Go to the "Newsgroups" section. (Use Keyword :
USENET)
3) Tap the button labelled Read Offline. When it opens you will
see a double box, one of which is labelled Read Offline. Pick
a newsgroup not currently in this box that you would like to
read offline, by tapping it with the mouse. Then tap ADD.
4) This must be done for each newsgroup, no group adds, exept add
all, sorry.
5) To reverse the process, simply highlight any newsgroup you are
tired of and tap Remove.

VERY IMPORTANT: You must exit this screen using the OK button.
Simply closing the screen will be taken as a cancel, and you have
to start over.

Midas


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09. Ques: All the posts in the newsgroup look as though
they are encoded/junk/gobbledegook. What's wrong?


MarkAllott answers :

What's "wrong" depends on the type of newsgroup you're looking at.
If you are looking in a binary newsgroup, then the "message" you
are looking at is an encoded representation of a binary file -
this could be a graphics file, a sound file or even a program.
Alternatively, if you are looking at some of the foreign-language
newsgroups, you will be looking at the newsreaders interpretation
of that languages character set. Examples here are the Russian and
far-eastern newsgroups, where the character sets are totally
different to the "standard" Roman ASCII character set.


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10. Ques: What are the different sets of Preferences?

1. Main newsgroups Global Preferences

MarkAllott and Monika Krug answer :

From the main newsgroups screen (Keyword :
USENET), there is a
button labeled "Set Preferences". If you press this, you will
then be taken to a general preferences screen for your newsgroups
with three tabs: Viewing, Posting, and Filtering.

On the Viewing tab you can choose whether you want to see
"no headers" (this will actually display a short, 4-line header
at the top of each message, namely Subject, Author, Date, and
Message-ID), or the full headers (about 10 lines, includes
useful information, like which newsgroups this article was posted to,
but also usually uninteresting information, like which newsreader
the person used) and that one either at the top or at the bottom.
No headers is the standard.

Also on the Viewing tab you can choose whether you want to see
the articles in the order newest to oldest or oldest to newest or in
alphabetical order.
If you want to read offline, you should definitely change the setting
from the standard "newest first" to "oldest first".

JIROMI adds :

Alphabetical listing makes a lot of sense if you read your newsgroups
online, and if you keep current with them.

Listing in alphabetical order helps keep threads together, because
when reading online, the threads will sometimes branch off, depending
on whether someone replies to the original post or to various replies.
The Alphabetical listing also makes it easier to find a particular
thread that you are interested in.]

Also on the Viewing tab you can choose whether you want to see
the real internet newsgroups names (like "aol.newsgroups.help"),
or a description (like "A place to ask questions"). You can also limit
how many articles you want to download maximally, so that flash
sessions will not last forever. If you read online, you don't have to
bother about that.

On the Posting tab, there is a box to fill in which name should be
displayed behind your e-mail address. This can be your full real name,
your first name, a nick name, or anything you like. Do not choose
something offensive. If you do not choose anything, your screen name
will be displayed as your name.
Note: Some newsgroups and hierarchies require you to use your
full real name. You should always lurk in (read only) a new newsgroup
for a while (1-2 weeks) before you start posting, and always read any
available FAQs. By then you will have found out if that particular
newsgroup accepts nicknames / first names / screen names. Most do.

The next box is for adding a junk block to your e-mail address. If you
type in "abcxyz" your e-mail address will end in @aol.comabcxyz
instead of in @aol.com. This is supposed to make your e-mail address
useless for e-mail harvesting bots, which randomly collect e-mail
addresses in newsgroups for the purpose of spamming. (See part V
for definition of spam.) A person who wants to reply to your articles
by e-mail can just delete the junk block. You can, maybe even should,
point to your junk block in your signature (see below). Even then
it will happen that people forget removing it. This can be annoying,
and the undeliverable mail causes more work for the mail admin
(of the sender). The junk block also will not completely prevent you
from getting spam. These are reasons why a) many people don't
use junk blocks anyway b) some newsgroups and hierarchies
prohibit the use of junk blocks. Inform yourself if they are acceptable
where you want to post. (See above the note about not posting real
names.)

The next box is for your signature. This is text that will be displayed
below your messages. Online you can switch it off for particular
messages, offline it will always be appended.
Your signature should not have more than 4 lines. Before that put a line
with only "-- " (minus, minus, space) in it (so including this line you
have up to 5 lines). If you intend to only post in AOL's internal
newsgroups, you can use HTML. If you intend to post to other newsgroups,
too, do not use any HTML, neither in your sig (short for signature) nor
in the body.

Sample:

--
Enjoy life, the alternative is boring.
My homepage: http://www.whereever.com/users/myname
Remove the junk block letters abcxyz from my e-mail address to reply.

This person could have one more line, but of course it's not necessary to

have _at least_ 4 lines - 4 is the maximum suggested.

The third tab lets you choose filters. There are two types, one at the
top the other one at the bottom.
The top one let's you type in e.g. an e-mail address
(example: You dislike what dumbguy@somedomain.com
writes, so you don't want to read his posts anymore, so you type in
dumbguy@somedomain.com in that box, set the listbox to "Author is"
and then click on Add - this is called "plonking" dumbguy,
"killfiling" dumbguy, sometimes even "killing" dumbguy. The killfile
is the list of people whom you don't like so do not read anymore.)
or certain words (e.g. you could type in "sex", set the listbox to
"Subject contains", and press Add; any post with the word sex in
the subject line will be filtered out.)

The bottom one let's you check certain options. These filters do not
workfor AOL's internal newsgroups, as they evaluate NoCeM (cancel)
messages, and the NoCeM bots do not get to AOL's internal newsgroups.
That does not matter, as in the internal newsgroups MzLindyOne (Carol)
cancels posts that violate the TOS anyway. You should check
the box for "Make Money Fast" (these are useless annoying posts;
they tell you you could make money by sending them everywhere,
which is rubbish) and make sure the box for "Messages longer
than ... charcters" is UN-checked. You should also check the
box "Binaries posted to non-binary newsgroups", especially if
you read offline.

Finally, when you are finished, make sure you press "Save",
otherwise all your changes will be lost.

The other button at the main newsgroups screen, labelled "Parental
Controls", gives acces to another set of preferences for the
newsgroups. One point to note here is that these preferences are
only accessible from the main screenname account, from which you
can alter the individual accounts access rights.

Pressing the "Parental Controls" button will then give you the
option of which screennames rights you want to alter. Once you
have chosen the account, another screen will appear which will
then give you options as to what can and can't be done for that
screenname.
Once you have selected the appropriate settings for your
screenname, make sure that you press the "Save" button on this
screen, otherwise your new settings will not take effect.


2. Individual newsgroups

MarkAllott and Monika Krug answer :

From the main newsgroups screen (Keyword : USENET), if you select
"Read my newsgroups", then select a newsgroup to read, you will be
given a new screen with the unread articles for that newsgroup
displayed as well as a few buttons.

If you press the "Preferences" button for that particular
newsgroup, you will then be able to alter individual settings
for the newsgroup you are in.

There are filters like in the global preferences (so you e.g. plonk
a person only in one group, or filter out any messages about dogs
in your favorite cat newsgroup, while leaving them in your favorite
dog newsgroup). Again make sure the filter "Don't show me messages
longer than ... characters" is UNselected. Obviously only filter
out binaries in non-binary newsgroups.

The two most important features are: "Enable offline reading for
this newsgroup" (only do this if you know how to use your offline
reader, described in part I and in detail in part IV of this FAQ)
and "Show message no more than ... days old (Max. 30 days)". The
standard setting is 14 days, the maximum is 30 days. In high traffic
newsgroups you should set it to a lower number. If you set it e.g.
to 7, any post that is older than 7 days will not show up on your
unread list anymore. This feature is also useful when you use List All
(i.e. also already read articles, e.g. when looking for older posts).


3. Members menu

MzLindyOne answers :

The "Members" menu, Preferences Section, Areas That Effect
Newsgroups

General: Display Text - small, medium, or large. Experiment to
see which one you like best.

"Automatically scroll documents" - should be UN-checked or you
will immediately be scrolled to the bottom on opening news
articles. [Does anyone have any idea of the possible use for
this feature?]

Download: Display images on download - determines whether or not
a picture you download from Usenet will be viewable on download.
Your download will go faster if this box is UN-checked.

Automatically decompress files at sign-off - this is an automatic
unzipping utility. It is recommended that you NOT use this
utility, as it is impossible to be sure what is inside a zip file
this way. Better to view the individual files inside with another
utility such as WinZip before decompression.

Delete ZIP files after decompression - fine for just graphics, but
you may want to keep a back-up for programs.

Confirm additions to my download list - this means that when you
use the "Download later" option, it will be confirmed with a
dialog box.

Retain information about my last ___ downloads - with these
pointers in "Files you've downloaded", you can easily try another
download if the first one was bad.

Mail: (Included due to overlap with Newsgroups in Filing Cabinet)

Confirm mail after it has been sent - a good idea with AOL, even
if it means an extra "OK" to push.

Close mail after it has been sent - Saves that extra click.

Retain all mail I send in my Personal Filing Cabinet - Saves
copies of mail you send, whether online or in FlashSession. The
default for this seems to now be "Yes". Be aware that saved mail
can fill the Filing Cabinet and thus effect downloading. Be sure
to clean out the area frequently if you are saving mail.

Retain all mail I read in my Personal Filing Cabinet - Same as
above, but for mail you receive.

Use AOL style quoting in mail - That means the <<< >>> rather
than the single > down the left side. Please don't use this.
UN-check the box.

Personal Filing Cabinet:

Issue warning if file size reaches __ megabytes - limits the size
of the Filing Cabinet.

Issue warning if free space reaches __ percent - free space in
this case refers to space that items have been deleted from. The
space is not truly usable again until the Filing Cabinet is
compacted.

Confirm before deleting single items - a chance to turn back if
you hit the wrong button!

Confirm before deleting multiple items - same as above, but when
multiple files are chosen for deleting at once.


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